Police: 2 Georgia Caregivers Waterboard 89-Year-Old Woman

JONESBORO, Ga. (CBS Atlanta) — Police charge two caregivers at a Jonesboro facility with waterboarding an 89-year-old woman.

Clayton County police said Jermeller Steed and Cicely Reed held down Anna Foley after an argument that started over ice cream.

They’re said to have allegedly held down Foley in a locked shower room, flooding her face with the hand-hold shower nozzle in 2008.

According to WGCL-TV, Foley was undergoing treatment at the facility for dementia. A co-worker witnessed the event and blew the whistle.

The technique slowly drowns subjects by blocking the air passages with flowing water while the subject is immobilized.

The Obama administration banned waterboarding suspected terrorists in January 2009, classifying it as torture.

Neither Steed nor Reed currently work at the elderly care facility.

  • lou

    For the “author” of this article’s information. Waterboarding doesn’t “slowly drown you” it simulates drowning… so, that is not true… not by a longshot..

    • yarply

      Oh Yeah it simulates drowning,, BUT YOU CAN DROWN PEOPLE WATER-BOARDING THEM.

      So what you said is not true… Its just plain dumb.

      • juju_girl

        And also YOU CAN DROWN if you are swimming in a pool…..

      • Dmac

        No, waterboarding, if done according to military standards, will not drown someone. It is simple running water on the face in order to create the panic reaction. It has nothing to do with water entering the nose or mouth. It is sort of like the tickle reflex. You start to panic, but it isn’t doing any real damage to the body. So… you are wrong. You can’t drown people by water boarding them, if it is done properly.

      • Orwell's Dilemma

        Yarply: You can drown someone with a squirt gun, but that’s not the point. If you were able to read for comprehension you would understand that the pro-terrorist author of the story indicates that the intention of waterboarding is to slowly drown the subject. That is not true. It is a lie. It is a propaganda point to give aid and comfort to terrorists. The people who say such things got a thrill up their leg watching Americans dive from the top floor of the WTC. Full stop. Anything that is done incorrectly can cause unintended consequences. Look at how many people die in car accidents. That does not mean that you say that the intention of driving a car is to occasionally kill yourself in a car wreck. Go back to your spider hole and play with your little terrorist friends.

      • Jered

        Water boarding will not drown someone if the subjects body is on an incline with the head being at the lowest point. (water does not run up hill)
        I know this for a fact because i water boarded my wife the other day for not have dinner ready when I came in from work.

      • Rosann Klatt

        Jered I must say you have a great sense of humor reading! After reading all of these other comments yours was a created a welcomed chuckle. Everyone else apparently takes themselves way to serious.

        Bottom line this was an aweful thing to do and I hope these supposed caregivers get their just deserts.

      • Delua

        Lets look up drown in wiktionary shall we?

        (intransitive) To be suffocated in water or other fluid; to perish by such suffocation.
        (transitive) To deprive of life by immersion in water or other liquid.
        (transitive) To overwhelm in water; to submerge; to inundate.
        (transitive) To overpower; to overcome; to extinguish; — said especially of sound; usually in the form “to drown out”
        (transitive) To lose, make hard to find or unnoticeable in an abundant mass

        Words: They mean things. Just because people choose not to learn what words mean doesnt mean the people who correctly used those words were wrong. Although from what ive seen, people will just scream their misconceptions louder when you point out them.

        Drowning does not mean “Death”. Drowning is a sensation. If you are being suffocated with water, you are drowning. Situation independant. For contrast, lets look up the word “Drowned”

        “Simple past tense and past participle of drown.”

        “drowned (comparative more drowned, superlative most drowned) (used only before the noun)
        That has died by drowning.”

      • Delua

        Yarply: Despite my pointing out your mistake below (in what word you used.) you have to understand there are two forms of detractors: One, like me, points out you are using a word incorrectly, and offers you the real definition.

        the other claims that someone whos name IS NOT ON THE ARTICLE is writing this for the sole reason of promoting a pro-terrorism agenda. Now, one of those two replies is stupid and probably a troll. Since i somehow doubt that the entirety of CBS is a pro-terrorism orginization, who do you think is the troll?

    • Capt america

      come one Lou, do you actually expect the media, especially CBS to get the facts straight when reporting? Keep dreaming.

      • Damon F.

        According to Dr. Allen Keller during testimony to the US Senate, “here is a real risk of death from actually drowning or suffering a heart attack or damage to the lungs from inhalation of water. Long term effects include panic attacks, depression and PTSD.”

        According to the CIA: “for reasons of physical fatigue or psychological resignation, the subject may simply give up, allowing excessive filling of the airways and loss of consciousness, i.e drowning”.

        Drowning occurs when water is drawn into the lungs. OF COURSE POURING WATER ONTO SOMEONE’S FACE CAN CAUSE DROWNING!!

        You guys have obviously been drinking the Bush Kool Aid far too long.

    • hartdixiecw69

      Splitting hairs along semantic lines. Read the description of water boarding from anyone that has had it done to them, they say they cannot help but believe they are drowning to death. That’s the point.

    • ciaran mac eil

      bush and cheney say its ok whats the problem

    • James

      If you’re dealing with someone who is this old, jumping out from behind a bookcase could literally scare them to death. In this case, they put the woman’s life in serious jeopardy and should be charged with attempted murder.

      • Sharon

        My mother had dementia so I know what a horrible condition it is. I can imagine something like this happening to her and know how hurt and bewildered she would be. That poor, poor woman. Things like this happen in facilities. We must be very alert to mistreatment of our loved ones. One way is to go to the facility early in the morning. I did that once and found my mom tied to a chair, naked under a smock, sitting on a urine soaked pad of some kind. The nurse told me that they thought she had a urinary tract infection. I should have called the police but what I did was to get control of the money and move her. These is such a thing as elderly abuse and these idiots need to be charged with that and with assault.

      • TruthforALL

        I guess you can’t say the sky is blue without “having an agenda”, huh Orwell?

      • Orwell's Dilemma

        Chubby: No one is being unsympathetic to the victim of this crime. Unfortunately, when the author called this “waterboarding,” she intentionally used this elderly victim’s suffering to promote her own pro-terrorism political agenda. (If she had been interested in the victim, she would have talked about the victim rather than fabricate a false waterboarding narrative.)

      • Cliff Logan

        I agree 100% with you James. If this was my relative, this would be someones A@#. This happened in 2008 and they are now being charged? What was the delay I wonder.

      • George

        If this happened to a relative of mine, these two pieces of excrement would welcome a judge and jury.

      • Chubby

        To read something like this is devastating to say the least. A punishment for those two pieces of trash should be exactly what they did to the 89 year old. The majority of people are crazy. I can’t believe what I’m reading here from others who have commented on this. Who cares what the technical term is of waterboarding only one person other than me showed any compassion for the person who must have suffered horribly.

    • Mary Minnie Moe

      Lou, you really didn’t expect accuracy in the media, did you?
      You are absolutely correct, it simulates but doesn’t drown.
      Love the fact they had to remind us that it was banned by the
      president. How about the fact that two sicko supposed “caregivers”
      used it on an elderly person with dementia?

    • boozy

      ah, like dude, I think you missed the point…

      • kenwood17

        Boozy, Lou got the point intended. Media / Post GOP debate setup of people who do not have the ability to “get the point”

      • James

        You can absolutely drown someone waterboarding them if you do not know what you are doing and you don’t let them up for air soon enough. Also, you don’t do this to old people in nursing homes unless you are a psycho who belongs behind bars.

      • Tim Lucas

        There are squirrels all over the net. Little spelling squirrels. Fact squirrels. Nit picking squirrels and most of them are liberals.

      • AnonymousCitizen

        Yeah, but that’s an important distinction. Drowning vs. simulated drowning. If I had to choose one, I’d sure as heck choose the simulated one.

      • David

        Yo Dugan,

        We are talking about an 89 year old woman suffering from Dementia being waterboarded in a Health facility. Not a physically fit military personnel being put through a consented waterboarding technique for training purposes! There is a hell of a difference in comparison.

      • TruthforALL

        And no, I am not a liberal. I am very conservative. But conservative doesn’t mean WARHAWK without a brain. Wake up from the manufactured left-right paradigm you morons. Since when does conservative = warhawk? Something tells me W…. Congrats W, you successfully brainwashed half of Amerika.

      • TruthforALL

        Ah Orwell, How ironic you used that as your name as it is apparent that you have been waterboarded with the kool-aid. As soon as one tyrannical administration recategorizes torture you jump on board without a sliver of individual thought. I proposed that we rename ALL torture “enhanced interrogation techniques” – you on board little sheep?

      • Orwell's Dilemma

        boozy: YOU missed the point. The author is trying to make her little pro-terrorism political point by comparing criminals drowning an old lady in a shower to trained military personnel using a mild interrogation technique that saved thousands of American lives. Lou was trying to point that out..

      • Dugan McKinlay

        Did you know that the US Military uses waterboarding against other members of the US military during a training exercise? It’s called S.E.R.E. School. Survival. Evasion. Resistance. and Escape. Its a training program to teach our military members what to expect in an enemy POW camp, if captured. It’s very VERY realistic. How do I know? I attended S.E.R.E. School while in the Navy. I survived and am not damaged in any way by the experience.

      • truther

        good for you, i have 8 people active or retired from the military, its done because it could very well happen to you as you decided to join the military no sympathy there, its an inherent job risk, however on a normal civilian it can cause devastating psychological damage, sometimes even to well trained soldiers familiar with pstd much/

      • truther

        its resist not resistance also FYI, dont try and look smart when you have no idea what your talking about.

      • Virtually_Here

        I agree. Totally MISSED the point! Military personnel sign up for and expect their training to include “mistreatment” to prepare them for the “rigors” of war. When we are old enough to NOT be able to care for ourselves (due to dementia or whatever long years on Earth brings us) and we end up in a skilled nursing facility, we are NOT signing up for torture — no matter WHAT form it takes…

      • USMC7599

        Dugan McKinlay:
        You are also not an 85 year old woman being tortured by degenerate thugs.

        You also seem to have forgotten your SERE training, quit running your mouth!

      • Blix America

        Silly person. You don’t expect facts in a new report do you?

    • Ron Reale

      and , if continued it drowns you! Absolutely true description of waqterboarding. You are being drowned, slowly.. so, you are not correct.. not by a longshot..
      Ron Reale

      • lj

        I wonder if Osama Bin Laden would have preferred waterboarding over assasination? Dem’s cheered Obama giving the assasination order but condemn waterboarding. Hippocritical! Doesn”t make sense.

      • AtlasObjectivist

        No, it does not. You are wrong or have liberal brain confusion.

      • vicky bennett

        Lou is right. The idea of waterboarding is to get information from terrorists, not to kill them. If we wanted to kill them, we would use a bullet.

      • Chris

        Hippocritical? What is that? A disapproving hippopotamus?

      • David Webb

        Hey Ron, you are talking out your ass, you have no idea what water boarding is.
        I have experienced it first hand. It is not a way to drown the subject. It does make you very uncomfortable.

      • tim sweeney

        most people are missing the point, the important thing is, they saved the ice cream, the ice cream is in short supply, old, demented people we got plenty of.

      • John Moser

        James and Ron…geez. The point of waterboarding is not to drown(which means the overly hydrated person DIES!), but merely give the sensation of drowning even though that is not the case. James, as to your second sentence, you have a spectacular grasp of the obvious.

        To the author, (1) please look up the word drown and (2) what the article described is NOT waterboarding.

      • Stanley Blop

        Heck, then you could say when a kid dunks another kid in the pool, he’s slowly drowning him.

      • Delua

        David: Yes, you have shown yo udont know what the phrase “Drowning” means.

        To be suffocated in water or other fluid; to perish by such suffocation.
        To overwhelm in water; to submerge; to inundate.

        See a word may not mean what you think it does. That doesnt mean we’re the wrong ones. It means you need a dictionary. And see I really like water, its kinda my thing. See the name.

        “Drown” look it up.

    • MaryAnne Chapman

      this is still some thing that should not have been done to an 80 yr old women in the first place ,. this is how we treat are parents and grand parent

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    • Freeland Dave

      Have most of you lost your minds? The point isn’t that water-boarding can drown you or not, it’s that an 85 year old woman was tortured. I don’t care if they water-boarded her or pealed up her fingernails with a pair of pliers, torture is torture and has no place in a facility for the aged and infirm regardless of their mental condition.

      Nitpicking whether the act of water-boarding can drown you or not drown you is not the issue yet that is what you choose to focus on in this article? Unbelievable!

      Does anyone seriously wonder what’s wrong in our society where this type of activity goes on and people focus on the technique rather than the fact that it is torturing someone incapable of defending themselves and who are paying or someone else is paying to be protected and helped?

      • horrible

        Thank you for bringing the real issue back on track. This is horrible elder abuse but why is it coming up now? I would also like to know the name of the facility – so often in these abuse cases they don’t list the facility – why not? I want to know the places to stay away from.

      • TMay

        Another media report states that it was on a street named Mount Zion in Jonesboro Clayton County Georgia, a problem being that there are several elder care establishments that meet that description.

    • Jaye Southworth

      WTH! That poor lady suffered at the hand of two evil workers. This is sick!

      • JOe Dutra

        No worries. She forgot it all withing minutes.

    • Darrel

      Yes, actual murder with water is what Ted Kennedy did to Mary Jo when he ran away and left her to drown when he crashed his car in his drunken stupor.

      • JOe Dutra

        Ted was a fat, low IQ, drunk.

      • Finbar

        Had Ted wanted information from Mary Jo, he could have water-boarded her instead, and she’d be alive today.

    • ConservativeRedneck

      It’s CBS and we all know from past events just how honest they are.

      • Finbar

        Apparently, they left out the part where the woman’s gas tank exploded.

    • Patrick Jones

      You’re exactly right, Lou. In fact, there’s a name for slowly drowning someone. It’s called, “slow drowning,” and it’s torture. Waterboarding is NOT torture, even though some people — including Barack Obama — have chosen simply to declare that it is. It simply ain’t.

      • Rechercar

        The US government hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding POWs in prison camps during WWII. Either we executed innocent men, or your “simply ain’t” is simply wrong.

        Given the fact that the definition of torture is itself highly controversial, and that with waterboarding in particular, there’s no consensus on the subject, there’s nothing simple about it. Period. Any claim to the contrary is bound to be ignoring evidence.

      • 1776Brad

        Patrick Jones, your simply wrong. You sound like a globalist Nazi sympathizer

      • shoppegirl

        Ok, Ok. Lets think about this. Is pulling an unborn baby apart to remove it from the womb, or better yet, is Partial birth abortion where the viable baby is partially born, then a scissors poked into the brain TORTURE? Give me a break here. Thats real “legal” torture, but waterboarding a terrorist to save our soldiers is torture. I just don’t get most of you. I just don’t.

        Abortion is torture.

      • Damon F.

        Right. Before Bush, waterboarding was torture, and after Bush it was torture. But it must be Obama who is mistaken. Waterboarding was known to originate during the Spanish Inquisition. Also known as showering or hydrophathic torture, it has been described since the 1600s as a form of torture, never with any controversy. Only the Bush administration would claim otherwise. I can’t believe there still people out there like you defending the Bush line.

    • Lloyd

      incorrect Lou, waterboarding IS drowning in slow motion. I can refer you to Christoper Hitchens article in Slate magazine on the matter where he had himself subjected to the process.

      • JOe Dutra

        Lloyd is a Lloser.

      • Steve

        Lol, if Slate says it, it MUST be true… Geez…

      • Finbar

        Oh, I thought Christopher was dying of cancer. He’s been dying of drowning all along.

      • Delua

        (intransitive) To be suffocated in water or other fluid; to perish by such suffocation.
        (transitive) To deprive of life by immersion in water or other liquid.
        (transitive) To overwhelm in water; to submerge; to inundate.
        (transitive) To overpower; to overcome; to extinguish; — said especially of sound; usually in the form “to drown out”
        (transitive) To lose, make hard to find or unnoticeable in an abundant mass

    • Eliot

      lou: If the person being waterboarded inhales the water, that person can drown. Or don’t you understand the definition of drowning? If two morons working in an institution hold an 89-year-old woman down on the floor and flood her mouth and nose with water from a nozzle, they could easily cause her to drown. If she didn’t drown, she could get pneumonia from the water in her lungs and die of that. On the other hand, I would not call what they did true waterboarding, either. It was torture of a brutal and sadistic kind, and perhaps they actually intended to kill her.

    • Brad

      So lets try it on you? What do you say, are you game?

      • JOe Dutra

        Let’s rock!

      • Delua

        Dont feed the troll. You ever read a fantasy novel? Water doesnt kill trolls. You need fire. A lot of fire. Otherwise, they just regenerate and come back later.

        Acid too, but fire is cheaper and easier to transport.

    • Tracy Smith

      Waterboarding doesn’t actually drown you. It creates the sensations of drowning, but is not, in fact, dangerous. This woman had nothing to fear and it probably only lasted a few minutes. She may have felt anxiety during the experience, but when she looks back and reflects, maybe she can find some kernel about the episode that enriches her life as she regroups and moves forward.

      • JOe Dutra

        She is senile and most likely forgot the whole episode within minutes.

      • dave

        tracy smith

        maybe someone will find your elderly parent or your minor child and enrich their lives with a little waterboarding. Why don’t you post their addresses and phone #s so those inteterested can drop by soon and do that, you sick f*ck!

      • Damon F.

        In fact!? And from where do you draw your facts? Admit it, you are just repeating party lines.

  • Pamela Beesly

    In the words of the late Louis Armstrong…”What a wonderful world”

    • JOe Dutra

      It is what it is. Suck it up.

  • boozy

    Kinda sounds like the Obama SEIU people and there tactics…since most are welfare mama’s and have no values….mmm mm good

    • ChocoCat

      Learn to spell, waterboarding sounds like Obama tactics? Seriously, the real problem this country has it that your vote counts as much as people that can actually think for themselves. I did not vote for Obama, but you are an embarrassment to this country.

      • Capt America

        and you are a real jem ChocoCat. I hope you are sterile.

      • Doug

        Those who don’t have the brains to debate resort to personal attacks, just like i’m doing to you :)

  • asdf

    You condone this sort of activity at the highest levels of national leadership and it invariably becomes a part of the culture. This is the sort of culture America is cultivating, one of brutality.

    Now every vet that comes back and gets a job with a little authority over someone else (police, medical industry, education, etc.) thinks they’re Jack Bauer out to save the world by torturing the **** out of anyone that doesn’t immediately obey their every command.

    So where’s the surprise? This is American culture on display.

    • Jake

      asdf, with those comments you sound like a delusional shut in.

      • lulz@urface.net

        I agree. The U.S. should torture and murder brown people world wide, that’s the only way to make them free and embrace Democracy. Surely murdering and torturing people around the world is the way to engender the good will of the Islamic world.

    • jkl;

      Why do liberals hate veterans so much?

      • asdf

        I am a veteran. Seems Mark and I are the only ones in this particular thread that are, and neither of us think torture is a valid intelligence gathering technique.

        Go figure. How was sitting on your couch during the past 10 years of warfare?

      • Mark

        I am a veteran with 12 years in the Army and I do not condone water boarding, it is torture and guess what, if we torture prisoners then what do we think our enemies will do to our soldiers. There are better ways to get information. If you torture someone they are just going to tell you what you want to hear. You people who have never served a day in the military in your life are so afraid of the terrorist boogieman that you will except anything.

      • Kenwood17

        Mark, a sincere “Thank You” for your service. Being in the military you know that by noon on 9-11 you too were afraid of the terrorist, as were all of us. Since the declared war on them is not yet won, all true military personnel know that those who are not afraid of the “boogieman” will contribute to exactly the kind of unprepared ness that causes harm to the good guys. .
        Not that it makes it right but being a veteran you also know throughout history none of our enemies have EVER treated our great men and women nearly as well as America’s mighty military does.
        Semper Fi

      • http://ny9solyndra.wordpress.com NY9Solyndra

        “if we torture prisoners then what do we think our enemies will do to our soldiers.”

        OH, I don’t know, torture them and then behead them on camera – like what the Islamofascists do routinely?

      • Clearhead

        Son, I don’t think your 12 years in the service has taught you much about the conduct of our enemies toward captives. Can you say, “BEHEADINGS”?

      • 12yearsandlearnednothing

        Learn the difference between “except” and “accept.” You will sound a little brighter.

      • PowerPC

        If you think that our enemies around the world only use torture because we do you are very naive. History should tell you that. The Japanese were notorius for torturing and mistreating POW’s. In fact, 30% of the prisoners held by the Japanese died in captivity. Compare this with the Germans that had a 3 – 4% death rate among POW’s. This is not saying that the Germans did not use torture. Our enemies do not allow themselves to be restrained by a Geneva Convention. They could not care less. I am not debating the accuracy of information obtained by torture. Just the fact that our enemies do not wait for us to use torture first and then they start doing it. In fact, with our current enemies, torture is not an issue since they usually just behead our soldiers and any other American they can get their hands on.

      • Jonny Ninja

        @ Mark:

        Thank you for your service sir. But you do realize that Danny Pearl’s head was sawed off long before we had captured and started waterboarding these guys, right?

        The planes flew into the buildings before that, too.

        And you do realize that they would continue to torture and execute our guys regardless of whether or not we waterboard, right?

      • Mark

        Look Johnny I actually agree with you on most of the points you are making and I think your heart is in the right place, but What I am saying is there are better ways to obtain information. When you do this to someone they will tell you what they think you want to hear, truth or not. And the bigger picture is we, as Americans were suppose to be better than this, better morally than the terrorist. I have no problem going after someone who attacks my country, but lets face it the politicians who are robbing us blind have done more damage.

      • kenwood17

        Mark, would you mind naming 3 or 4 better ways to obtain life saving information so as to educate us?
        Ways that would obtain information as timly as needed to save American life.
        Our president either could not or would not so we need a bit of professional help here.
        We are spending $800,000.00+ a year on each of those we capture, who would help kill Americans. If there something more we should do for them?

      • gordon

        Politicians robbing us blind have not done us more damage than say, Hitler, The Kaiser, Stalin, Mao – they’ve cost our country dear in terms of treasure and/or Top notch Human Beings. Soldiers who do not wear a uniform should be shot as spies in war-time. Geneva.

      • Mark

        Look like there is more than one Mark posting here,. Thanks for your brothers service also. just don’t believe we as Americans should be doing this kind of stuff.

      • shoppegirl

        Johnny Ninja is correct. mark thank you so much for serving.

        I don’t believe waterboarding is torture.

      • Connie

        Your comment leaves a great deal out. Your premise is absolutely incorrect. I do believe America has had enough of panty wastes like you. Stop sticking up for terrorists and misfits and criminals. Start sticking up for your country.

      • JOe Dutra

        Because they are pansies.

      • JOe Dutra

        “I am a veteran with 12 years in the Army and I do not condone water boarding, it is torture and guess what, if we torture prisoners then what do we think our enemies will do to our soldiers. There are better ways to get information. If you torture someone they are just going to tell you what you want to hear. You people who have never served a day in the military in your life are so afraid of the terrorist boogieman that you will except anything.”

        I don’t believe you. Anyway, there may be better ways of getting information, but there are none that are faster. It works!

        I’ll betcha I could water board you and have you spilling the beans on your secret gay love affairs within two minutes!

    • Jonny Ninja

      Hey idiot, you do realize that waterboarding is precisely the tactic that got us to Bin Laden’s doorstep, right? Let me say it in a different way. If it weren’t for waterboarding the enemy, there could very easily be more dead Americans today, including yourself.

      People like you are long on ideology, but lack basic common sense.

      If you really want to prove that there is a better way, how about you hop a flight to the mid east and “convince” the Islamists not to attack us because you’re such a nice guy and you were able to sway their religious beliefs. Let me know how it works out.

      • gringo_patriot

        The US provoked the attack. Read your history, idiot; that is, if you can read. Good evening.

      • Yannick

        @ Jonny Ninja Waterboarding didn’t help get Osama bin Laden. That is a popular story they like to say to legitimize the act. The best interrogators in the mid east do not believe in water boarding at all because in their experience the information is not reliable. They cross reference information from waterboarded suspects with other suspects and sometimes they match, but that’s far after the fact and amongst many lies. It is also illegal under U.S. law and international law. It is immoral and ;unamerican. It makes us less to go to those levels and will only escalate further.

      • Canof Sand

        “The US provoked the attack. Read your history, idiot; that is, if you can read.”

        Your first sentence is about as intelligent as your second sentence, and that’s pretty dang stupid, given that you’re addressing it to the author of a more-or-less perfect (as far as grammar and spelling go) multi-paragraph comment.

      • JOe Dutra


        Will you be dancing with Chaz next season?

      • Bob Billings

        Unfortunately I have to use this “reply” link to reply to “gringo_patriot”. You are an antagonist. That is all you are. You have nothing to offer for the good of anything. You just want to go around provoking people. It’s a mental thing.

      • Rechercar

        Get your facts straight, Jonny Ninja.

        “People like you are long on ideology, but lack basic common sense.”

        So long as we’re being insulting, I’ve got one: People like you are long on conviction, but lack the ability to read.

        Khalid Sheikh Mohammed gave us the name of the courier that led to Bin Laden. He gave up the name after standard interrogation techniques were used. He had months to give up the name while being waterboarded. He never did.

        For the record, I’m actually on the fence with the whole “is waterboarding torture” debate, but I try to at least have my facts straight.

      • Damon F


        Ninja’s post is grammatically perfect?! There is a grammatical error after the very first word of the post!

    • Bob Billings

      Are you really that stupid?

  • Jeff Cutler

    If they had joined the union, they would still have their jobs.

  • vicky bennett

    Waterboarding is not torture. What they did to this woman wasn’t waterboarding, it was abuse. Were there medical personnel there as it was happening? There are medics available when terrorists are waterboarded.
    So don’t give me this c r a p.

    • Mark

      How about going through it yourself then decide whether it is torture. I can’t believe what this country in becoming.

      • Mark

        Yeah johnny ninja I just bet your brother went through the save thing. You probably still live in your parents basement. When you go can go through this yourself, then you can come back and say it is not torture. It is comments like this that have me worried for our country. We used to hold the moral high ground, now we are beginning to look more like the terrorist or Nazi Germany and the people who have never served or have never been in combat who condone this stuff are no better than the German people of WWII who condoned what happened in their country

      • Jonny Ninja

        My brother went through it in training. He is fine with us using on the enemy.

        I mean let’s get real. Your definition of “torture” could be applied to a parent grounding their own kid for acting out.

        We aren’t dipping people in acid. Chopping off limbs.. Pulling out fingernails.. SAWING PEOPLE’S HEADS OFF WITH A DULL KNIFE ON THE INTERNET.

        No, we pour water on their face. And they THINK they are going to drown. At base level, we make them uncomfortable. With water. On their face.

        Please, if you want to do something for humanity, go and cry to a government who actually tortures prisoners. Like Iran. Or China. Or Yemen. Or Syria. Or Pakistan… The list goes on.

      • Mark

        I do agree with you on one thing Johnny the liberal press is trying to make a comparison that just is not there.

    • Jason

      Vicky, your an idiot. That’s all I can say.

  • John Piotrowski

    I just can not beleive the ineptness of this article .What does this have anything to do with how Obama banned waterboarding in any way.The best part is the last line .Oh and by the way the people do not work there any more .Pathetic

  • Don Moore

    Again, the liberal media throws out a big ole softball for the libs to pick up and run with against the idea of using alternative interrogation tactics. If anyone thinks this article has anything to do with an attack on an 89 year old woman then you’re a flaming fool.. This is a blatant attempt to enrage the public and inject Waterboarding into the political discourse now that the question has been asked of our Republican candidates.

    • John T.

      I agree.
      Now let’s focus on the ice cream argument that precipitated the “alleged” crime.
      And let’s investigate how anyone ever gets anything done in this country if everything done is presumed to be alleged.

    • goose

      What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If you rather enjoy the notion of torturing brown people overseas then don’t complain when brown people in the U.S. use those same tactics on your elderly mother.

      • Ivan Ivanovich

        What is all this “Brown People” talk? I thought we were living in a post-racial world.

    • Damon F.

      “Alternative interrogation tactics.” Now that is an euphemism straight from the Ministry of Truth. Or was it the Nazis who came up with that terminology? I forget.

  • Tommy

    Uh..? I don’t recall mention of a board in that shower. According to this author’s account, I too was water boarded when my brother splashed my face at the pool. There was no board in the pool, either, but my face was wet so it must have been EXACTLY the same as water boarding.

  • Climp Jones

    Whats wrong with waterboarding? Bars, pubs & nughtclubs should start having ‘Waterboading Nights.’ DisneyLand should have a ride named WaterBoarding.

  • Tommy

    The absolute funniest thing is that the 89 YEAR OLD WOMAN was fine, and went right back to stealing ice cream… yet we cannot do it to terrorists that wear bombs in to battle to kill American’s. Hahahaha!!! American’s are hilarious!

  • RacingJason

    Clearly this low quality reporter hasn’t a clue what waterboarding is. It cannot drown you as water doesn’t go into your lungs. Its a scare tactic that makes the body *think* its being drowned, but its actually non-lethal. Get your fact straight, no need to lie.


    Liberals look pretty stupid when they complain about safely waterboarding known murdering terrorists, and yet they are apparently just fine with Obama sending kill squads to shoot terror suspects dead before asking them a single question. Makes no sense, typical liberalism.

  • Jonny Ninja

    I didn’t think this story was about politics, but the author opened it up by reminding everyone how the “noble Obama” outlawed waterboarding by the military…. But of course, the author left out that shortly thereafter, it ended up that waterboarding is precisely what allowed us to find and then kill Bin Laden….

    On a sidenote, waterboarding doesn’t drown anyone.. It simulates drowning..Moron.

    • jeff

      Not to mention the picture, which in no way matches the story line of what these ladies did to a helpless older citizen.

      • Jonny Ninja

        No kidding.. as if the goal is to make me picture a poor old woman everytime I hear that we waterboarded some terrorist @$$hole in gitmo. This story is one of the lamest attempts at propaganda that I have ever seen..

  • Patrick Henry

    Wake up America, waterboarding IS torture. It may be “low level” torture but it has always been classified as a torture technique until the bogus “War on Terror”. You know, the war that steals all your rights while the border with Mexico remains wide open for any terrorist to walk across if they choose. You know, the war that has erected a surveillance society police state in the formerly free US while we go and assist Al Qaeda depose of dictators in Libya.

    • Jonny Ninja

      My brother and many of my friends are in the military. If they say waterboarding helps to protect them and us by getting information out of bad guys, then we should be doing it. By the way, the military waterboards certain soldiers as part of training. And they come out fine afterwards. So if you liberals really want to prove your point, you go and get the same information from the bad guys by being nice to them. Take your time.. spend a couple of months.. Then, let’s come back and see if you or the military ends up with better intelligence….if you ever even make it back..

      Yeah exactly, it wouldn’t work would it? Why? Because your idea is stupid.

      • Damon F.

        Perhaps your brother and friends are morons. Did that ever occur to you?

    • Rick

      Please be first in line when the terrorists want victims to cut their heads off; if you won’t stand behind our troops, please stand in front of them. Liberal/communists never learn.

  • bleating point

    Water should be banned. Look what it did to grandma.

  • Phil McAnn

    Ugh, the hell of getting old. I spend my whole life avoiding baboons and the next thing I know I’m getting waterboarded over an argument on ice cream. They don’t care if you are 90, or 2, or handicapped, they are cruel and they have fun hurting people, those baboons.

  • KS

    You idiots are missing the point. They tortured a senior citizen with dementia.

    • AtlasObjectivist

      The real point here is that liberalism is a mental disorder and 2012 will bring real change.

    • Jonny Ninja

      Yes they did. Which is wrong…

      Make no mistake, that’s what I thought the story was going to be about when I first clicked on it. Then I figured out that it’s really just some lame propaganda piece for the suicidal liberal cause…

      • Rushbabe

        Jonny Ninja so Right on! What started as a story about adult abuse suddenly got very political, and lame..

        The writer of this story could care less about the poor woman, he / she just wanted to make a leftist point.

        But none of us fell for it.

      • John T.

        Not-so-subliminal anymore:
        “The Obama administration banned waterboarding suspected terrorists in January 2009”
        – Paid for by Suckers for Obama 2012

        True transparency in the government and in the press is when the people see through both of them.

  • momofsoldier

    My sweet son is right now in the middle of Basics. He probably will be waterboarder, and he is going into this willingly.

    God bless our troops.

    • Crusader87

      God supports kidnapping people world wide and carting them off to secret CIA prisons to be tortured. Lol. I can’t believe how crazy Christians are some times.

      Don’t take this too personally though, I know you’re just a victim of a low IQ.

      • LightlyYoked

        @Crusader87…..You sound exactly like someone who would empathize with the two women who tortured that poor old woman.

        Don’t take this too personally, though. I know you’re just a victim of a godless society.

  • James

    There is a huge, and perhaps agenda-driven inaccuracy, or outright lie, in this report.

    Waterboarding, as applied to terrorists by the United States, allowed no water to enter the lungs on the one hand. On the other, since when does spraying someone with a shower nozzle become waterboarding, in which the subject is strapped to a pallet with their feet elevated, etc……..you need a board to waterboard.

    Unless you are CBS. Then you can misrepresent the facts in order to boost Obama, disparage our armed forces and CIA, and make yourself feel good for blowing the whistle on waterboarding.

    Except that it wasn’t waterboarding.

    Other than that, the journalists were spot on.

    CBS = SEE BS

    BTW, those “caregivers” need jail time.

  • I'm Not Buying It

    What these two criminals did is not waterboarding and the photo is not “a demonstration of a person getting waterboarded.” It is a photo of a Coney Island Waterboarding “Thrill Ride.” Click on http://weirdnews.about.com/od/weirdphotos/ss/Waterboarding_R.htm The photo does not accurately depict waterboarding. Water is NOT poured down the subject’s nose and/or mouth. A towel is placed over the subject’s face. Only a small amount of water seeps through the towel into the subject’s mouth and/or nose. The inability to suck air in through the wet towel, the water gushing over the face, and the small amounts of water seeping through the towel simulate drowning and cause panic. The article is clearly a story of sick horrible people used to propagandize, brought to you by the network of the disgraced Dan Rather.

  • Slim Sadlles

    This must be a very progressive municipality if they actually have some kind waterboarding statute they can charge you with,

    • Amurican

      Yea, that’s crazy. Water boarding should be completely legal, even in the elementary schools as a form of punishment for talking out of turn.

      • Slim Saddles

        You miss my point. I’m sure the cops or DA can charge someone with “assault” or “attempted murder” but, contrary to what the article claims, I doubt they can charge you with “waterboarding”

  • Christine Craft

    Michelle Bachmann loves waterboarding..would do it herself ..if she could just find some good waterproof fake eyelash glue.

    • James Reader

      You are an idiot.

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  • Clarity-jane Seer

    That is rediculous. Bin Ladin has been dead for years. Obama is lying through his teeth for election points. the Americans have been brainwashed into a state of paranoia. You are going to die from a bee sting before a supposed terrorist!

    torture is wrong period! give me five minutes to waterboard Chaney and he will confess to being Bin Laden

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